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You sound like you're trying to add weight to your accusation by showing how you're a "neutral" third party, except this just makes you sound deranged. You neither follow my account nor see its content but, based on someone's biased recount of what I said, you decide to run over here to send this perch—again, to someone you neither follow nor will you see their content. What are you doing? Seriously, what do you want to get out of this?

First, you talk about me committing a misogyny as if it's a one-time act when misogyny is a persistent belief. You have a sample size of two about me talking about heroines in otome games, and a poor sample at that because I was drawing a comparison to illustrate my point. Have you seen the way I talk about the heroines from Love and Producer and Beyond the World?

Second, don't lecture me about the career path of a lawyer when I literally work in criminal law. I think I would know more than the average layperson about these things.

Third, everyone needs to take a step back and stop inserting themselves as the heroines of otome games or view them as living breathing women who will be hurt by so-called acts of "misogyny". When I talk about heroines like this, I talk about them as tools of a narrative, which would include their relationships with their men because these are otome games. I cannot talk about the narrative as a whole without talking about the way the relationships are depicted.

The things I've said about Tears of Themis are things the game itself has brought up. In the very first chapter of the main story, Rosa is preparing for her intermediate lawyer exam, meaning this is now canon across all romance lines with the men. It even gets brought up again in Zuo Ran's Autumn Dreams. ToT prides itself on milestones, as shown by their relationship development, but why is Rosa's career so stagnant then? She's been a junior lawyer for years now. Kiki has been an articling student for years now. Fair enough if the writers don't want to explore this in the romantic lines of the other men, but it would be a great thing to bring up in Zuo Ran's romantic line because it's their shared profession.

As for her being reduced to being the men's light, have you read Lu Jinghe's cards, roughly the ones around Tideborne Romance? He's the biggest offender because you can see the stiff way the writers want to highlight Rosa's importance to him and how it comes at the cost of making Lu Jinghe's relationship with his family sound weird. His family is always praised and their efforts are acknowledged about how they tried to take care of Lu Jinghe after his mother's passing, except he's been so lonely and not seen until Rosa entered his life. I'm not saying this dissonance between the reality of his family and his emotional feelings cannot exist, but the writers don't explore this in detail and brush it under the rug with Rosa's existence in Lu Jinghe's life. Look, at this point I'm not even "reducing" Rosa to her love interest, I'm "reducing" Lu Jinghe to his love interest LOL.

Tears of Themis' greatest flaw is that they're poor at writing romance, especially when compared with the other CN otome games. However, since you're so touchy about me doing comparisons, just look at the difference in quality and focus between ToT's first year and now. The first year was amazing at showing both characters as individuals with different beliefs, but now Rosa revolves around the men more and more in the romance lines.

Anyway, at the end of all this, I'm uninterested in continuing the conversation further because it doesn't sound like there's anything to actually talk about, since you just wanted to come in here guns blazing at someone you don't know or whose content you will even be seeing.

You sound like you're trying to add weight to your accusation by showing how you're a "neutral" third party, except this just makes you sound deranged. You neither follow my account nor see its content but, based on someone's biased recount of what I said, you decide to run over here to send this perch—again, to someone you neither follow nor will you see their content. What are you doing? Seriously, what do you want to get out of this?

First, you talk about me committing a misogyny as if it's a one-time act when misogyny is a persistent belief. You have a sample size of 

 about me talking about heroines in otome games, and a poor sample at that because I was drawing a comparison to illustrate my point. Have you seen the way I talk about the heroines from Love and Producer and Beyond the World?

Second, don't lecture me about the career path of a lawyer when I literally work in criminal law. I think I would know more than the average layperson about these things.

Third, everyone needs to take a step back and stop inserting themselves as the heroines of otome games or view them as living breathing women who will be hurt by so-called acts of "misogyny". When I talk about heroines like this, I talk about them as tools of a narrative, which would include their relationships with their men because these are otome games. I cannot talk about the narrative as a whole without talking about the way the relationships are depicted.

The things I've said about Tears of Themis are things the game itself has brought up. In the very first chapter of the main story, Rosa is preparing for her intermediate lawyer exam, meaning this is now canon across all romance lines with the men. It even gets brought up again in Zuo Ran's Autumn Dreams. ToT prides itself on milestones, as shown by their relationship development, but why is Rosa's career so stagnant then? She's been a junior lawyer for years now. Kiki has been an articling student for years now. Fair enough if the writers don't want to explore this in the romantic lines of the other men, but it would be a great thing to bring up in Zuo Ran's romantic line because it's their shared profession.

As for her being reduced to being the men's light, have you read Lu Jinghe's cards, roughly the ones around Tideborne Romance? He's the biggest offender because you can see the stiff way the writers want to highlight Rosa's importance to him and how it comes at the cost of making Lu Jinghe's relationship with his family sound weird. His family is always praised and their efforts are acknowledged about how they tried to take care of Lu Jinghe after his mother's passing, except he's been so lonely and not seen until Rosa entered his life. I'm not saying this dissonance between the reality of his family and his emotional feelings cannot exist, but the writers don't explore this in detail and brush it under the rug with Rosa's existence in Lu Jinghe's life. Look, at this point I'm not even "reducing" Rosa to her love interest, I'm "reducing" Lu Jinghe to his love interest LOL.

Tears of Themis' greatest flaw is that they're poor at writing romance, especially when compared with the other CN otome games. However, since you're so touchy about me doing comparisons, just look at the difference in quality and focus between ToT's first year and now. The first year was amazing at showing both characters as individuals with different beliefs, but now Rosa revolves around the men more and more in the romance lines.

Anyway, at the end of all this, I'm uninterested in continuing the conversation further because it doesn't sound like there's anything to actually talk about, since you just wanted to come in here guns blazing at someone you don't know or whose content you will even be seeing.

I neither follow your account nor see the content regarding it but someone brought the issue some time ago about how you talked about mcs in other's games which really falls into misogyny. It was a Convo between you and your oomf where you were pointingout inconsistencies and flaws in tot's writing by saying how "rosa is busy being the light of her men's life" while my mc is already stepping tjhe stones in her career by now. Which does icks me a lot because there's a lot more ways to point out flaws in tot's writing instead of reducing a character to just "busy being the men's light" it's almost as if you are reducing her character down to her male love interest ❓❓❓not to mention that career hierarchy and progress varies A LOT when you compare a lawyer and a fashion designer's career roadmap

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Your way of talking about mc in other otomes is very... Ehhh

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